Rolling Outages

  • Hi Wayne, nice to meet you also. I'm one of the people who owns family forests and yes, due to the influence of the Sierra Club we can't harvest timber off of our land. Want me to send you the requirements for a timber harvesting plan? We cannot commercially harvest timber off our land- we have mature trees (Doug Fur) that we can't touch. They will sit there and die and be fuel for our next wildfire.

    This goes beyond small landowners like us all the way to the commercial timber companies like Georgia Pacific, Harwood, LP= all who have been driven out of California.


    OK- now tell me how much it'll cost to bury 176,000 of miles of power lines underground. Being pragmatic here, who is going to pay for burying 176,000 miles of cable? I'll bet it's us, the rate payers. LOL, you cite the burial of 20 miles of cable as a solution- do the math. Look at that Wayne- and look at the problem we face out here... 176,000 miles of at risk cables, and they're going to bury twenty miles of it.

  • Well Airhead 176,000 miles is the entire system. Most of it is not a hazard. And you have to start somewhere. At least burying 20 miles will make them fix the roads around the lines. I really feel for you and your tree harvest. Extremism on any side is bad for everyone. Wood is valuable. Just today I took the trash to the dumpster and saw half a sheet of 3/4" plywood in the trash. I wanted to grab it as though it were treasure but I had to control myself, ha ha.


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    They are the single largest utility company in America. Power has the power and currentl(ly).


    Today there Are 17 counties that they will be doing this Again and the word is expect this for the next ten years. I am expecting an appeal any day for rate increases approval??????


    People in my area are furious. also our water is off every other day for this month/ and when we had the other it was planned off for three days, the three days they shut the power off.

    Oh my gosh! I would be LIVID!


    Did you get my message? I missed your call the other day and called back.

  • Well Airhead 176,000 miles is the entire system. Most of it is not a hazard. And you have to start somewhere. At least burying 20 miles will make them fix the roads around the lines. I really feel for you and your tree harvest. Extremism on any side is bad for everyone. Wood is valuable. Just today I took the trash to the dumpster and saw half a sheet of 3/4" plywood in the trash. I wanted to grab it as though it were treasure but I had to control myself, ha ha.


    :pirate

    True but the terrain is pretty rugged and remote. Far cheaper than burying cables is using a device that disconnects the power if a cable disconnects, but PG&E was too busy handing out bonuses and stock dividends to concern itself with safety but- then again- this is the same system that's been in place for over 100 years and we've never had fires as bad as this... look at the Coffee fire. It wiped out an urban area... devastated it.


    One thing PG&E is correct about is this is our new reality. Entire communities burned out, rolling blackouts- we had one last week and we're scheduled for another today so... I'm thinking this might be the best time to sell out and move away.

  • Oh my gosh! I would be LIVID!


    Did you get my message? I missed your call the other day and called back.

    Not really, voice mail and my tinnitus don't agree to work well. Text me to leave me a message, please. I saw that you phoned but that was it. Sorry I missed you. Lasz wants to get together with his friend Mike to have a get together. Maybe you could plan on coming up sometime in November ??????

  • He called me earlier and I gave him your number. he told me you said that was ok. Yeah, I would love to come up. Not sure when I actually can though. When's Eve's birthday again?

    Next year, 9/23. You were planning on coming in November for his get together. Maybe you can do that? When we were speaking my power got cut off. That was on a Saturday and then we got it turned back on the following Tuesday late afternoon but then our water was off and our sewer got reconnected the following Monday evening.


    Kind of like a Chevy Chase movie. Our solar system still has not had repairs fro the heritage oak tree limb that fell on it. It is difficult to get anything repaired. The sewer was going to be nearly 10K but we got it done for $5,500. So that helped.

    What did you do for Halloween?

  • Hi Wayne, nice to meet you also. I'm one of the people who owns family forests and yes, due to the influence of the Sierra Club we can't harvest timber off of our land. Want me to send you the requirements for a timber harvesting plan? We cannot commercially harvest timber off our land- we have mature trees (Doug Fur) that we can't touch. They will sit there and die and be fuel for our next wildfire.

    This goes beyond small landowners like us all the way to the commercial timber companies like Georgia Pacific, Harwood, LP= all who have been driven out of California.


    OK- now tell me how much it'll cost to bury 176,000 of miles of power lines underground. Being pragmatic here, who is going to pay for burying 176,000 miles of cable? I'll bet it's us, the rate payers. LOL, you cite the burial of 20 miles of cable as a solution- do the math. Look at that Wayne- and look at the problem we face out here... 176,000 miles of at risk cables, and they're going to bury twenty miles of it.


    Hi Wayne, nice to meet you also. I'm one of the people who owns family forests and yes, due to the influence of the Sierra Club we can't harvest timber off of our land. Want me to send you the requirements for a timber harvesting plan? We cannot commercially harvest timber off our land- we have mature trees (Doug Fur) that we can't touch. They will sit there and die and be fuel for our next wildfire.

    This goes beyond small landowners like us all the way to the commercial timber companies like Georgia Pacific, Harwood, LP= all who have been driven out of California.


    OK- now tell me how much it'll cost to bury 176,000 of miles of power lines underground. Being pragmatic here, who is going to pay for burying 176,000 miles of cable? I'll bet it's us, the rate payers. LOL, you cite the burial of 20 miles of cable as a solution- do the math. Look at that Wayne- and look at the problem we face out here... 176,000 miles of at risk cables, and they're going to bury twenty miles of it.


    Well Airhead 176,000 miles is the entire system. Most of it is not a hazard. And you have to start somewhere. At least burying 20 miles will make them fix the roads around the lines. I really feel for you and your tree harvest. Extremism on any side is bad for everyone. Wood is valuable. Just today I took the trash to the dumpster and saw half a sheet of 3/4" plywood in the trash. I wanted to grab it as though it were treasure but I had to control myself, ha ha.


    :pirate

  • 'They' have zero intention to fix the roads. 'They' have been chaining the roads off limits across the forests of this country for many, many years. 'They' don't want us having access to the forests and a lot more of it is off limits permanently and the UN has designs on much of it. We are under Agenda 2021 and hurrying rapidly into 2030.

    Move humans into stack and pack developments, wherein we can live in much smaller footprints, walk to employment and entertainment. Rewild the formerly accessible wildlands and kick humans off. Only the very elite will have them to enjoy.


    For those who still retain land curtail the use of it and restrict their enjoyment of their blessings and ability to remain there eventually.


    I am glad I am getting old as I would loathe looking forward to life as it seems to be headed.

  • There was some speculation going around that PG&E wasn't cutting off power bc it started wildfire, but bc the high winds cut much of their capacity to deliver power. Wind turbines (renewable energy) make up so much of the power that when wind speeds are too high they kick out. So with the predicted winds

    above 55miles/hr turbines kick out,

  • There was some speculation going around that PG&E wasn't cutting off power bc it started wildfire, but bc the high winds cut much of their capacity to deliver power. Wind turbines (renewable energy) make up so much of the power that when wind speeds are too high they kick out. So with the predicted winds

    above 55miles/hr turbines kick out,

    Our tow major wind origin energy comes from down below wherein they cut most power and also down on the desert by Palm Springs, way down? Where I live we had little to no winds and nothing even in low double digits.


    Sunday my son just told me he lost power for about 3 or 4 hours.