The song could also be perceived to be Satanic by someone calling out the Churches for being so evil. Satanic in what the church does to their followers with all the deception. To do what the church does with all the decepetion is considered morally wrong by some and goes against Jesus Christ and Christian principles in their purest form. Jesus had something to say about false prophets.
I hope I am not offending anyone by speaking freely.
It is fun to be bad. 
I totally get what you are saying. I really like what you wrote about the song.. The song could definitely be satanic to some people depending on a persons own perceptions.
Each line is deep. "There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold" This line is about being sure you are right about something that isn't what you think it is. It glitters, it grabs your attention. You can go to heaven, have anything you want and live forever if you live your life like this. Have faith and someday that glittery thing will be real after you die and then you get that so called gold that you want. The lady is sure that the path she is on is correct and if she just does what she is told she will get the gold someday. "And she's buying a stairway to heaven." So she gives the church money (tithing) in order to get to heaven. She believes what the church tells her is the path to heaven. This could be any church by the way, Catholic, Jehovah Witness, Mormon, etc. They all operate in that way although Jehovah Witness does to a lesser extent of those 3. You must go to church regularly to get to heaven and to go to church regularly you must pay money eventually.
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I never thought much about the meaning of each verse in that song but I thought that the overall just of the song was that the devil is calling you to join him and that there are two paths you can take and it's not too late to change whichever one you're on.
It's interesting because a friend of mine and I were just talking about led Zeppelin and about how they are so great, but we each felt that there's some kind of spiritual weirdness going on with them and their music.
I thought that as a kid. I got that vibe from a lot of their songs but especially kashmere and stairway to heaven.
I know that Jimmy Page was heavily into the occult. I don't know, I just think there's some influence on their music that is spiritual like maybe satanic even. And I don't mean that in a nut job sense, like it's all satanic music. I just mean that to me it seems like they got help.
Like some of their melodies and music and stuff seems like it was so far ahead of its time. But it seems like there's a mystical part to it, at least for me.
So it's interesting
The song is very deep and the lyrics contain many allegories. Yes, as you said, Jimmy Page was heavily into the occult, but I don't think the song was satanic although those who have spent their lives in organized religion would likely view it as satanic due to their indoctrination into the dogma and brainwashing within the church. I think the purpose of the song is to wake those people up who have been subjected to the atrocities of organized religeon and tell them they have a choice (there are two paths, not just one). If there is a devil in the song calling you to join him, the devil is the church calling you. The church is the devil because it manipulates Christianity and Jesus teachings.
Kashmere and Stairway to heaven are my two favorite songs by the band with Kashmere being #1. Spiritually both songs I believe are about connecting with Jesus Christ's true teachings and traversing the path towards connecting with universe and what is real instead of the church and the deception. The song essentially says you have a choice in life, make sure the path you are on the true path. The song isn't preachy though, but more of a wake up call I think. I would say the song resonates with many people on many levels but many people don't really understand why. I think this is because it resonates with their subconscious, but consciously they can not reason why.
At the time the song came out it was considered to be big "no no" to change tempo during a song. The song speeds up as it progresses which went against what was taught about music at the time.
I really appreciate your response and this discussion.
I had this idea for a thread to discuss song lyrics. I am not sure how it will work especially if we discuss multiple songs at the same time, but what the hell, lets give it a shot.
I will pick a classic that everybody likely knows: "Stairway to Heaven" by Led Zeppelin
Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin
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There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to heaven.
When she gets there she knows, if the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for.
Ooh, ooh, and she's buying a stairway to heaven.
There's a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings.
In a tree by the brook, there's a songbird who sings,
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it makes me wonder.
There's a feeling I get when I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving.
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees,
And the voices of those who stand looking.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it really makes me wonder.
And it's whispered that soon, if we all call the tune,
Then the piper will lead us to reason.
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long,
And the forests will echo with laughter.
If there's a bustle in your hedgerow, don't be alarmed now,
It's just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on.
And it makes me wonder.
Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know,
The piper's calling you to join him,
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind?
And as we wind on down the road
Our shadows taller than our soul.
There walks a lady we all know
Who shines white light and wants to show
How everything still turns to gold.
And if you listen very hard
The tune will come to you at last.
When all are one and one is all
To be a rock and not to roll.
And she's buying a stairway to heaven.
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My interpretation:
In the First verse, the lady represents a naive women who believes she has it all figured out and she is buying her way into heaven by tithing her church. She believes in heaven she can have whatever she wants especially in a material sense and she is on the right path.
The Second verse I believe represents that sometimes she questions herself and her direction in life. a songbird hints that our entire perception about the world around us may be wrong.
Third Verse. I believe is about being able to sense and feel something that you can't see or touch that is out there in the etherial.
Fourth Verse
If we all call the tune and follow the whisperings of our mind, "the Piper" will lead us to see things differently. The result being that we will leave way we knew behind and live in a new bettter existence.
The drums start in the song, as does this new vision of existence.
Fifth Verse
A hedgerow is a bush, this is imagery depicting a bush shaking from the inside, but refers to wary feelings and thoughts in the mind. Don't be alarmed by these feelings and thoughts as they can be put into the proper perspective.
It's not too late to change the spiritual path that you are on. And it makes me wonder...
Sixth Verse
Lady, you are filled with confusion.
Lady, your stairway lies on something that doesn't exist.
Then, a sudden strange and abrupt change in music. The solo seems to communicate its own particular message without words. This transition seems to represent the crossing over from innocence and falling into the truth.
Final Verse
And as we wind on down the road
Our Shadows taller than our soul (Our shadows get taller as the sun is setting, so time passes)
There walks a Lady we all know of (The lady is the church)
Who shines bright light and wants to show (The church wants to sell you on how you can have it all)
How everything still turns to gold
And if you listen very hard (Listen!)
The truth will come to you at last (one's own sense of reason and truth)
When all is one and one is all (Everything is connected "etherial")
To be a rock and not to roll. (You are the rock of your own faith)
The last verse is a plea to look beyond the Lady (Church) to one's own sense of reason and morality to get to some higher place - "the tune will come to you at last" and you'll be the "rock" of your own faith, of your own reason,(as Jesus' claim to Peter) and not depend upon any other earthly entity to inform you of right and wrong.
So that is my interpretation. I wished I would have picked an easier song. This song was way more difficult to try and intrepret than I had imagined it would be.
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Glenn really wanted to be a singer and/or an actor. In high school he took music (mostly choir) and drama classes every trimester. He was a bass in choir and considered to be the best in the State. He wanted to go to NY City and make it big in music doing music similar to Manhatten Transfer.
Billy Burke has been in lots of movies and was the lead in the TV series Revolution. He also makes great music.
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Display MoreI guess I'm confused because it's all over the news about 5G becoming available tomorrow.
Well I did just look at some articles and most of them are about the airlines concerned about it affecting the altimeters when they land near airports. And then varied in the stories it mentions that the US carriers are going to turn on 90% of their 5G and antenna mast tomorrow I guess.
Which is odd to me because I've seen 5G on my phone but very spotty. Like only one or two times before if I seen 5G on my phone.
I'm kind of excited now because I'm wondering if I could use my phone as my internet connection?
5G was available in millimeter wave spectrum but it was hard to find and rarely available to most people. They just flipped the switch on the mid band 5G in the C-band. This is the new 5G that interferes with aviation electronics.
I am pretty sure that the reason they would shut things down back in 2020 was because they could only treat so many people at once at the hospitals. When the numbers got too high some died due to lack of proper treatment. If they didn't shut down many people would not have been able to get treatment and deaths would have been much higher. This seemed to be the standard protocol in most countries too. Once the vaccine came out and enough were vaccinated, they could open back up. At least that seemed to be the thingking at the time.
I knew a few famous people before they were famous. The most interesting famous people I have met were already famous, but I can't discuss those people because of NDA agreements aka confidentiality agreements.
I knew Billy Burke and Glenn Beck way before anyone knew who they were. I spent time with both of them but more so with Glenn. Billy Burke was a really great person before he made it big. I am happy for him, the guy has amazing musical talent too. His last album was the best in my opinion.
The old version of this website was pretty active though and it was fun.
Yes! That is how I remember it to.
The site looks a lot like it used to when you first created it but I remember the old site had way more little detailed stuff. The site seems more basic to me now than before.
I recognize lots of member names. I see Lily from The-fridge has an account here. I always liked her and thought she was a really good Mod there. It doesn;t look like many people stop by very often though.
Maybe I am not quite ready for frustrating. I will hold off for a few days until I am closer to 100%. My mind is still foggy on and off.
I am doing some home repairs todays and just generally catching up on stuff that fell behind when I was in bed this last week. It is great to feel almost normal again.
I am thinking about trying Aces High later. I checked out the site but have never been there before today.
I wish you would come back but I think I understand.
I almost called you but signed up here instead. Just wanted to make sure things were OK, and it sounds like they are.
Good to hear! I have been checking out the site here.
