Posts by Toad
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Again, that's NOT what the article is really about. It mostly documents the corruption throughout the US government under the Obamessiah and the current Village Idiot.
Please read the section titled : Ukraine Meddling vs. Trump
"A recent account in the New York Times revealed that Ukrainian intelligence played a vital role in generating CIA allegations that would become a foundation of the Russiagate hoax – that Russia stole Democratic Party emails and released them via WikiLeaks in a bid to help elect Trump. Once again, CIA chief Brennan played a critical role".
You really should read the article. It's not really about Russia.
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Oh, that was because only idiots like us failed to understand the science was proven.
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Say what you want about "interference" in 2014 Ukraine overthrow, but it's not like we had much to do with it. the people did that. It's not like we dropped little green men in there, overthrew the place by force and then held fake elections since then.
Actually, we had a very lot to do with it. IF you read the article, they document how we basically paid for it, picked the leaders and guided it.
There were riots in Ukraine because the pro-Russian leader went back on his word (and the vote) to integrate more with Europe, and instead decided to hitch up to Russia
Again, if you read it, that's not quite it.
"The reality was more complex. Yanukovych was hoping to maintain relations with both Russia and Europe – and use competition between them to Ukraine’s advantage. He also worried that the EU’s terms, which demanded reduced trade with Russia, would alienate his political base in the east and south, home to millions of ethnic Russians. As the International Crisis Group noted, these Yanukovych-supporting Ukrainians feared that the EU terms “would hurt their livelihoods, a large number of which were tied to trade and close relations with Russia.” Despite claims that the Maidan movement represented a “popular revolution,” polls from that period showed that Ukrainians were evenly split on it, or even majority opposed."
So the people were demonstrating in the streets. The government started killing them.
I think there's significant conflicting information on that:
"That winter was marked by a series of escalating clashes. On February 20, 2014, snipers fatally shot dozens of protesters in Maidan square. Western governments attributed the killings to Yanukovych's forces. But an intercepted phone call between NATO officials told a different story.
In the recorded conversation, Estonian foreign minister Urmas Paet told EU foreign secretary Catherine Ashton that he believed pro-Maidan forces were behind the slaughter. In Kyiv, Paet reported, “there is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new [opposition] coalition.”
Fuck Russia.
Well, at least we agree on that in general.
We might have supported what went on, but it was happening anyway. Russia can't accept that a border state might want to have a free will away from Russia
The article makes it pretty clear it could not have happened without our support.
"In violation of parliamentary rules on impeachment proceedings, and lacking a sufficient quorum, Oleksandr Turchynov was named the new acting president. The Nuland-backed Yatsenyuk was appointed Prime Minister.
Ben Rhodes, top Obama aide: Wrote in his memoir that Nuland and Pyatt “sounded as if they were picking a new government.”
In a reflection of their influence, at least five post-coup cabinet posts in national security, defense, and law enforcement were given to members of Svoboda and its far-right ally Right Sector.
“The uncomfortable truth is that a sizeable portion of Kyiv’s current government – and the protesters who brought it to power – are, indeed, fascists,” wrote Andrew Foxall, now a British defense official, and Oren Kessler, a Tel Aviv-based analyst, in Foreign Policy" Which, however incredible it is, seems to support both Boroda's and Putin's allegations about Nazis in Ukrainian government.
I'm sick of people telling me that Russia has a legitimate reason to invade Ukraine.
That's not what the article is saying. The article, to me, is saying that the US government, from it's Oval Office, Congress and Deep State Departments Of is totally corrupt and out of control. Further, that the US is primarily responsible for the disaster that is Ukraine. The US shaped it and funded it, along with GEORGE SOROS. That Soros involvement should be a huge red flag to everyone.
"In 2012, one pro-Maidan group, Center UA, received most of its more than $500,000 in donations from the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the National Endowment for Democracy, eBay founder Pierre Omidyar, and financier George Soros.
Jeffrey Sachs: "They were describing to me: ‘Oh we paid for this, we paid for that. We funded this insurrection.’ It turned my stomach.”
By its own count, Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation spent over $109 million in Ukraine between 2004 and 2014. In leaked documents, a former IRF board member even bragged that its partners “were the main driving force and the foundation of the Maidan movement,” and that without Soros’ funding, “the revolution might not have succeeded.” Weeks after the coup, an IRF strategy document noted, “Like during the Maidan protests, IRF representatives are in the midst of Ukraine’s transition process.”
I can't see anyone supporting something Soros funded.
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Well, hope GScholtz survived is multi-vaxes. He was ok for a Euro.
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I'm sure this researched article will not sit well with our Ukrainian flag waving Congresswhores or the White House but it is a long and interesting read.
To paraphrase Forest Gump, crooked is as crooked does. From this, it looks like every part of the Deep State, Deathocrat Party and MSM have been lying their ass off about US involvement the last 10 years.
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Saw that a couple days ago. I think it's funny and accurate.
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Yes, this person exited the house holding a firearm. He apparently shot at the cops first and the cops quickly returned fire. Nonetheless, Terry (and/or his accomplice(s) ) managed to kill 4 cops (3 at the scene, 1 later in the hospital) before they put this mad dog down. Accomplice(s) because there were also shots from inside the house and two females were taken into custody.
None of the MSM reports include a photo of Terry. Curious, eh?
Well....maybe, maybe not......
I will search for a picture.
Well, he might be a Muslim but one thing is for sure...............
....the MSM will give no clues as to anything other than his name.
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Beethoven. Music that doesn’t suck!
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Those dipshits probably have to have their math textbooks as audio books.
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I had a boxed set of Beethoven’s symphonies in college and a while after. I don’t know when/where we parted company. Bought that on a whim, out of curiosity. Played them quite a bit The guy knew what he was doing.
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