Russia begins invasion of Ukraine - what now?

Quote from rabidrabit

We can do this forever if you wish.

I'm not going anywhere.

You'll never be part of any discussion and you'll never be making any points. You're the schoolmarm that keeps chanting if you don't eat yer meat you can't have any pudding. Pointless and boring.

We all deal with YOUR type on various BBSs every day as well. I have a very low tolerance for your type. Arrogant, know-it-all assholes that don't contribute anything but slag.

At least you have your thread full of death videos and unsubstantiated reports from the frontline trenches by people you met on the interwebs.

It's good to see your true character on full display. Most grown men would move forward but you are bound and determined to act like a woman scorned and childishly troll onward at everyone's expense.

RR....the Mirror Master. Damn, you must love preening before it.

Quote from Gina

And yet you never hear Putin mention anything about bio weapons in Ukraine.

In his manifesto, he never mentioned it.

There you have it Gina.

Russian Duma Report: Thousands of Ukrainians Used as Guinea Pigs for US Bioweapons Research, at Least 20 Died

www.thegatewaypundit.com

US intel services, pharmacy giants supervise military bio studies in Ukraine — official

These data are contained in the DTRA expanded report on the activity in Ukraine, the Russian defense official said

tass.com

https://archive.ph/sY0tO

MOSCOW, December 24. /TASS/. The Russian Defense Ministry has the document with the names of all the key American officials supervising Ukraine’s military biological program, Chief of Russia’s Radiation, Chemical and Biological Protection Force Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov said on Saturday.

"Among them are former DTRA [Defense Threat Reduction Agency] Director Kenneth Myers, Executive Vice President of the CIA-controlled In-Q-Tel venture fund Tara O’Toole, ex-Head of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Thomas Frieden, ex-Director of the National Institutes of Health Francis Collins, ex-Executive Director of the Battelle Memorial Institute Jeffrey Wadsworth, the Pfizer chief scientific officer and president of the company’s global research, development and medicine division and many other officials," Kirillov said.

"All of them are beneficiaries of the Pentagon’s biological projects and are linked with the US Democratic Party whose leaders are the ideologists of military biological researches and the creators of secret schemes of laundering funds in the interests of a narrow circle of the American elite’s representatives," Kirillov stressed."

Moose_Antlers 3 months ago +14 / -0

I'm going to do some thinking out loud here. TLDR in green at the bottom.

1. Credibility. This article is out of TASS (a Russian-controlled media) meaning that surely, it has been vetted and approved by the Kremlin directly or indirectly. We have to remember that any time we're dealing with a state-controlled media, we've got a bias. That doesn't mean the facts are wrong, but it does mean we need to look for omissions and question conclusions.
2. The source is named (Good). More importantly, this is General Kirilov, who is the commander of their biological, chemical, and nuclear weapon service. His words make this effectively the formal position of the Russian government. They're speaking openly and directly, and putting as much authority as they can behind the message. This isn't a "leak" from "anonymous sources."
3. They specifically name names.

• Kenneth Myers, former DTRA Director
• Tara O'Toole, Exec VP of In-Q-Tel (a CIA-controlled venture fund)
• Tom Frieden, Obama's Director of the CDC
• Francis Collins, Obama's Director of NIH
• Jeffrey Wadsworth, former Exec Director of the Battelle Memorial Institute
• and multiple figures associated with the Pfizer corporation

Given that most of these DTRA labs were created and made operational during the Obama years, this list includes people who would be viable candidates for those leadership positions: proven executive experience, relevant experience in medical research, deep connections to the Democrat party and believers in the liberal, globalist project.

1. None of the rest of the article is new. That stuff has been known since April 2022. It is the same song Russia has been singing since the start of this conflict. It is the same story they attempted to tell at the UN, but which was ignored by western media and dismissed as "Russian disinformation." This, naturally, muddies the waters, and makes us question what is true and what is not.
2. The DoD maintains that nothing they were doing was offensive in nature or would violate international biological weapons bans. My question, then, is why is DoD using the DoD budget to do research that is civilian in nature and should have been done by NIH? Answer: civilian research funded by the taxpayer has to be made public. We get to see it. But if you're working on pathogens that are easily weaponized or working on various delivery systems, you don't want that made public. Using the DoD budget allows you to hide it. Whatever they were doing, it wasn't civilian research. It wasn't innocuous.
3. I think the Hunter Biden laptop is critical here. It has been widely speculated that there is evidence on that laptop showing that Hunter's Rosement-Seneca firm was providing financing for a company called Metabiota which ran the day-to-day operations of these 46 labs in Ukraine for the DoD. Whatever they were doing, Hunter Biden is neck deep in it, and so is Joe. Recall that the Ukrainians were investigating Hunter Biden for corruption in 2016 when Joe Biden specifically demanded that the investigation be stopped and the AG running it be fired. Joe Biden specifically and personally intervened to keep Hunter's business dealings quiet. Using US foreign aid as leverage, he got the AG fired that day. Was this what was under investigation? I think the laptop has such evidence.

If this were true, the point is that Joe Biden and his son were overseeing a massive biological weapons development program in Ukraine during the Obama years in violation of several international treaties banning such research. However, we do not yet have physical evidence of that publicly.

In other news, US military is scrambling to find enough 155mm artillery shells to maintain enough for our own forces while supplying Ukraine.

We make 14,000 per month and the Ukes have fired that many in 48 hours.

Apparently we may "rent" 500,000 from S. Korea to maintain our own war stocks. LOL.

Who knows what the real story is.

Could be a typical Russian screw up. Could actually be an attempted shoot down that did fail due to a missile malfunction; it is Russkie shit hardware after all. I would not be AT ALL surprised if they thought they had a US Rivet Joint; they are not too sharp at aircraft ID either. See KAL 007.

I bet the Brits had a little moment when they heard the guy say he pushed the button.

Russian jet almost shot down a British surveillance plane flying near Ukraine, and only failed because the missile malfunctioned: report (msn.com)

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