The fear of immigrants, in general, has been exaggerated out of proportion (based on envisioning terrorists or south of the border criminal gangs managing to overtake the land or destroy stuff). as such.
Yes, there are states that allow undocumented immigrants to participate in local elections.
What is the crime rate of illegal aliens compared to legal aliens? And how much does illegal alien crime and its prosecution and incarceration cost.
Now you just admitted that illegal aliens have voted in local elections, is it possible that some have voted in national elections?If you say no, you are wrong because California has discounted votes from individuals that "didn't have legal residential status." If you say yes, you have just invalidated your own position.
We're talking about a citizen's right to vote. Yes, there are indeed some citizens that live so impoverished that they can't even make it to the DMV to get a license or ID. And the charge for 'papers' (as some refer to vaccine documentation in another argument) is essentially equivalent to a 'poll tax' (which is contrary to the 24th amendment of the U.S. Constitution).
That is a bad argument to make. First of all, STOP BEING DISINGENUOUS! You're using the term, "some citizens" when every single civil rights worker and national level Democratic politician uses the terms Black, African-Americans or the general term minorities. They continuously try to scare black people into thinking that the Republicans want to oppress them. They want African-Americans to think of themselves as victims, that aren't capable of doing the simplest thing for themselves. growing number of minorities are starting to think that narrative is demeaning and racist. BAD ARGUMENT!
Think about it! There are millions of immigrants (both legal and illegal) that have come to America with nothing.....not even able to speak English at all...that have been able to work, go to school, get driver's licenses and buy property such as homes and cars. Do you mean to tell me that immigrants can do all that but native borne citizens that can speak the language and know the system and procedures can't? You have a bad argument.
But the biggest blow to your argument is the civil rights movement. Ever heard of that? You know, when millions of Americans spent their time and money to mobilize in a coherent movement to get Black people registered to vote. If voter I.d. is really that disenfranchising, where are all the black celebrities and athletes going door to door bring black people to get registered? Where are all the white guilt celebrities picking up black people in their Tesla's and Mercedes, bringing them to the local courthouse to get registered? THERE AREN"T ANY!
There was a time in our not too distant history that all immigrants would have been considered 'illegal' (undocumented) by today's standards.
If you do not have a legal residential status in a country, you are in fact in violation of the law. that means that you are doing something illegal. What do you not understand? You can call it anything you want. Undocumented? Sure, let's go with that. But it still means that you can't prove a legal residential status...and that makes you an illegal immigrant.