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    All I know is we got off the plane in Phoenix and drove to Palm Springs. They were along the route we took.

    But hey, don't believe my lying eyes or the article I posted to back it up.

    There aren't any coming from Phoenix until you get into California and start to hit Indio.

  • All I know is we got off the plane in Phoenix and drove to Palm Springs. They were along the route we took.

    But hey, don't believe my lying eyes or the article I posted to back it up.

    I read the article and it's several years old, it doesnt have a date but it does mention in one part "before the federal credit expires in 2019. and it talks about replacing old windmills with new ones which produce more electricity with less wind turbines. it also says companies "may" just create new farms instead of building on existing ones. but it talks about what may or may not happen. I have seen bigger towers next to smaller ones. and I have seen them taking smaller towers and having bigger ones installed. but the article is 2 or 3 years old and it only talks about palm springs. like I said there are no wind farms on highway 10 that have been built or abandoned between palm springs and phoenix, other than in palm springs. perhaps you saw some being dismantled but it's a far cry from miles and miles of abandoned wind turbines.


    my wife's family they all live in palm springs. palm springs was a popular spring break town. I have been there more times than I can count, going back to the 80's also due to work i drove on highway 10 to the california border all thru the 2000 to about 2008. no abandoned farms there. and I have gone many times to phoenix, no abandoned wind farms on the way there. perhaps you thinking of palm springs as arizona has never had a wind farm along the 10.

  • That's Balsa core, uni weave glass a Uni carbon all covered in 2 0z glass cloth. all laid up with vinyl ester resin.

    Blades are made in 2 pieces and glued (with resin) together. I know guys in middletown RI that worked on these things.

  • I read the article and it's several years old, it doesnt have a date but it does mention in one part "before the federal credit expires in 2019. and it talks about replacing old windmills with new ones which produce more electricity with less wind turbines. it also says companies "may" just create new farms instead of building on existing ones. but it talks about what may or may not happen. I have seen bigger towers next to smaller ones. and I have seen them taking smaller towers and having bigger ones installed. but the article is 2 or 3 years old and it only talks about palm springs. like I said there are no wind farms on highway 10 that have been built or abandoned between palm springs and phoenix, other than in palm springs. perhaps you saw some being dismantled but it's a far cry from miles and miles of abandoned wind turbines.


    my wife's family they all live in palm springs. palm springs was a popular spring break town. I have been there more times than I can count, going back to the 80's also due to work i drove on highway 10 to the california border all thru the 2000 to about 2008. no abandoned farms there. and I have gone many times to phoenix, no abandoned wind farms on the way there. perhaps you thinking of palm springs as arizona has never had a wind farm along the 10.

    It probably was California but there were 100's of non operating windmills. At the time there was no construction going on. Just deteriorating ones and new ones.

    Yeah, sure they may have replaced them by now. But it's doubtful as the article stated, it's cheaper to leave them rot and and move on than tear them down.

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  • It probably was California but there were 100's of non operating windmills. At the time there was no construction going on. Just deteriorating ones and new ones.

    Yeah, sure they may have replaced them by now. But it's doubtful as the article stated, it's cheaper to leave them rot and and move on than tear them down.

    the liberal way... shit up an area and move on. hey what was the state with the most fleeing?

  • It probably was California but there were 100's of non operating windmills. At the time there was no construction going on. Just deteriorating ones and new ones.

    Yeah, sure they may have replaced them by now. But it's doubtful as the article stated, it's cheaper to leave them rot and and move on than tear them down.

    like I said no abandoned wind farms in california. most likely what you saw and this is my best guess, is a couple of windmills needing repair and the rest not moving for several reasons, no wind, too much wind or they were not needed. I've seen the same thing. but my wife's family lives in palm springs we go there several times a year. by the way those windmills that have served their purpose are replaced or removed. palm springs is anal in a good way about that. they didnt want them in the first place, but now people are used to them. that's according to the link you posted. any windmill that outlives its purpose is replaced or removed. there used to be 4000, then 2000, now they think they could generate twice the electricity with 700, then again that is on the link you posted. no abandoned rusted windmills existed or have existed in palm springs. I only live 50 miles from there and have gone there since the 80's. now if you had said in the 90's, I could not really vouch for that as I was in the marines in 89, then moved to north caroline after leaving the marines and moved back in 98. but 6 or 7 years ago or the last 20 years, that is a misunderstanding on your part.


    from 98 to 2008 I worked regularly in palm springs, after I got another job, me and my wife would travel there just about every month. all her family except for her mom lives there. I have not seen miles of rusted wind mills in the middle of the desert as you originally stated.

  • the liberal way... shit up an area and move on. hey what was the state with the most fleeing?

    Louisiana, nebraska and west virginia were ahead of california in 2020. when I was living in north carolina back in the 90's in charlotte, the joke was why do people of west virginia move to north caroline? because that's how far they get on 1 tank of gas.

  • I'm sure the special ones you saw were the aluminum ones. All the others are composite.


    I have no reason to disbelieve you.

    hell they could have been made out of toilet paper mixed with glue around a balloon the shape of a blade covered in foil paper. I didnt examine them. they just looked like aluminum to me. kill me for it.

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    hell they could have been made out of toilet paper mixed with glue around a balloon the shape of a blade covered in foil paper. I didnt examine them. they just looked like aluminum to me. kill me for it.

    I think killing you could perhaps be a little extreme. Maybe he could just break some bones or something.

  • I think killing you could perhaps be a little extreme. Maybe he could just break some bones or something.

    it was a joke. gina you ever stopped at georgie's in yucaipa on county line? if you like german sandwiches, only place around that I know of. lieberwurst is the best, if you like that. the deli is awesome, you can get whatever cuts you want to take hom. I am not into cakes but their german chocolate cake is to die for. all imported from germany, including german beer.

  • Ok, my 2 cents. I used to have a home in Palm Springs that I used to frequently visit in between vacation rentals. So I know this area very well too as well as the wind turbines. I have never seen one like the picture but that doesn't mean they don't exist somewhere among the thousands. The wind turbines that most people probably see are probably on the I-10. They are positioned in different directions though. I have noticed that sometimes when the wind wasn't very strong, only the ones in the best position for the wind would be turning. Driving through there in high winds, nearly all would be turning. So it is always different every day that you drive through there.


    My electric bill was through Edison Electric and it would show the percentage of electricity generated by the wind turbines. It was surprisingly high, I want to say 40-50%.

  • Ok, my 2 cents. I used to have a home in Palm Springs that I used to frequently visit in between vacation rentals. So I know this area very well too as well as the wind turbines. I have never seen one like the picture but that doesn't mean they don't exist somewhere among the thousands. The wind turbines that most people probably see are probably on the I-10. They are positioned in different directions though. I have noticed that sometimes when the wind wasn't very strong, only the ones in the best position for the wind would be turning. Driving through there in high winds, nearly all would be turning. So it is always different every day that you drive through there.


    My electric bill was through Edison Electric and it would show the percentage of electricity generated by the wind turbines. It was surprisingly high, I want to say 40-50%.

    never lived there but now my gas bill went from 5 to 15 or 20 a month to 50. they say the average price went up 30% due to higher costs and that I do call bs. I pay more for gas than electricity. my electricity bill is around 30 all year long. small 2 bed aparment but it's been colder this year than I can remember, we had snow. well mostly snowish water crap. but it's been colder. then again wife who never in her life would let me turn on the heater because she was always hot, now she's cold. I wake up in the morning in the heat is ridiculous, i feel Like I am back to north carolina during the middle of the summer.