I don't believe 30k dead. That would be defeat of incredible proportions.
"The Ukraine Foreign Affairs Ministry on Thursday said Ukrainians had killed about 14,000 Russian troops and destroyed 86 jets, 108 helicopters, 444 tanks and 1,435 armored vehicles. The U.S. to date has been unable to verify the loss counts of either military."
While I'm sure the US has almost every recon asset in use over or near Ukraine (Drones, U2s, RC-135s, JSTARS, E-3s etc, just remember they only release the info they want to release to shape opinion.
number of russian kills or Ukrainians will never be know. I do believe thousands of russians are dead, probably hundreds if not thousands of russians captured. truth is stupid putin went to this war thinking that he had big balls, but his troops dont understand why they are there. I do think ucraine will fall, but it will be at a cost of russians who dont want to be there and eventually they will be pushed back and take their country back. but in the end the truth is thousands will die because of ego, just like any other war.
To be fair, the WWII stuff is in Ukrainian hands, not Russian. I like those Ukrainian SF bullpups. Never seen those before.
IPI in Ukraine makes that bullpup, they call it the "Malyuk".. The Malyuk is "mostly" built with drop in AK74/etc parts, they have made them in 762/39, 5.45, and 5.56, but mostly they are in 5.45 with a proprietary in house constructed suppressor system attached or included.
Well, hello there Mr. G.
=Bows-
Greetings all, good to see you.
Hey Gscholz, I guess we finally have a bunch of vids now of the Mi24/35 being taken down by manpads. For others here, until this war, even including Syria, there was few if any vids of a Hind being destroyed by mapads systems, an interesting subject GS and I have discussed a lot on the "other" board. The Hind is a tough effing helo. But, like any battlefield mathematics, it's just a matter of time so far as up arrow ratios go. There have only been a 1/2 dozen vids or so, but some of the vids of Hinds taking it on the chin are pretty crazy. Such a shame this invasion happened, but considering the Russians stationed their best units and equipment in their "Battalion Tactical Groups", Putin's focus on new wizzy high end tech investment at the cost of training and equipping his regular army, has shown pretty negative combat performance results. Even with the best BTGs making up the spearhead of the invasion, they still took a bit of a drubbing so far - obviously so have the Ukrainians, big time. Also, as Tom Clancy once wrote, amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics. A guess Putin wasn't a fan and didn't read that.
A great article here by Justin Bronk about Russian air power and its lack of capability and performance right now. He states that the reasons for the lackluster performance of the VKS so far boil down to a few points -
https://www.prospectmagazine.c…ble-of-complex-operations
1. Russian pilots are getting 1/2 to 1/3 the flying hours that Nato pilots get. Just enough to keep basic skills proficient, and not much more than that.
2. Due to this they only fly 2 ship formations, and rarely if ever have multi group missions assembled like the West is capable of.
3. They shot off most the their stocks of precision weapons in Syria, and so far as using the rest, see point 1.
4.They have an age old Soviet problem - their focus on mobile SAM/AAA systems is a double edged sword, and they've apparently taken a lot of blue on blue (or is it red on red, haha) loses with their own surface to air defenses plinking a bunch of friendly Russian aircraft from the skies. They have had major deconfliction problems which contributes to them only flying small 2 ship formation missions instead of larger co ordinated air power missions.
If faced with defeat, will he reach for the nukes? And if he does will his military follow the orders?
=Bows-
Greetings all, good to see you.
Hiya Gman. Good to see you here.
=Bows-
Greetings all, good to see you.
Hey Gscholz, I guess we finally have a bunch of vids now of the Mi24/35 being taken down by manpads. For others here, until this war, even including Syria, there was few if any vids of a Hind being destroyed by mapads systems, an interesting subject GS and I have discussed a lot on the "other" board. The Hind is a tough effing helo. But, like any battlefield mathematics, it's just a matter of time so far as up arrow ratios go. There have only been a 1/2 dozen vids or so, but some of the vids of Hinds taking it on the chin are pretty crazy.
Yeah. Statistics have a tendency to catch up to you eventually. MANPADs have also become far more accurate, and thus more lethal than in the days of the Strela and 1st-gen Igla is A-stan. A Hind can shrug off a lot of shrapnel from proximity hits from those tiny warheads, but a direct hit is not really survivable, and no practical amount of armor can change that.
Low, slow, and noisy — The modern battlefield is an unkind place for helicopters.
When the Russians are abandoning self-propelled artillery for the Ukrainians to salvage, this "special military operation' is very special indeed...
Display MoreYeah. Statistics have a tendency to catch up to you eventually. MANPADs have also become far more accurate, and thus more lethal than in the days of the Strela and 1st-gen Igla is A-stan. A Hind can shrug off a lot of shrapnel from proximity hits from those tiny warheads, but a direct hit is not really survivable, and no practical amount of armor can change that.
Low, slow, and noisy — The modern battlefield is an unkind place for helicopters.
External Content youtu.beContent embedded from external sources will not be displayed without your consent.Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. We have provided more information on this in our privacy policy.
Hah, ya, that was the exact video I had in mind. Quite the nose plant that Hind did after being fireballed by that hit. Crazy huh. I wonder how the British Starstreak will work, the triple unit they set up on a tripod or the very large shoulder mounted unit - no explosive warhead, just the 3 high velocity kill vehicle darts. Time will tell on those too.
Hiya Gman. Good to see you here.
Hey Toad, how've you been, good to see you too!
I think Putin is really fucked.
Ditto, I think stalemate is where he's headed, which is NOT good for him or Russia. Not at all. Today Russia demanded a couple cities to surrender, and the both told Russia to eat shit.
